How to build your product team from scratch, attract top product talent, go multi-product, and more | Rohini Pandhi (Mercury, Square)

Listen to this episode from Lenny's Podcast: Product | Growth | Career on Spotify. Rohini Pandhi is a product leader at Mercury, and previously spent over seven years at Square/Block leading product work on Square payments, invoicing, and the Bitkey hardware Bitcoin wallet. She’s also the co-founder of the startup bootcamp Transparent Collective and is an active angel investor. In our conversation, we discuss: • Key indicators that it’s time to hire PMs • How to build your early PM team • Why founders should initially take on the product manager role themselves • How to attract top PM talent • What she’s learned about going multi-product • A case for investing in quality • More — Skip the Mercury Personal waitlist: https://mercurytechnologies.typeform.com/lenny — Brought to you by: • Cloudinary—The foundational technology for all images and video on the internet • OneSchema—Import CSV data 10x faster • Airtable ProductCentral—Launch to new heights with a unified system for product development — Find the transcript at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-build-your-product-team-from-scratch-rohini-pandhi — Where to find Rohini Pandhi: • X: https://x.com/rohinip • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rohinipandhi — Where to find Lenny: • Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com • X: https://twitter.com/lennysan • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/ — In this episode, we cover: (00:00) Rohini’s background  (05:00) The role of product managers at Mercury (09:51) Key indicators that it’s time to hire PMs (13:18) Building the product team at Mercury (19:53) Why you should avoid hiring PMs too early (22:26) The different flavors of product management (26:15) How to attract top talent (35:59) Advocating for quality in product development (44:10) Going multi-product (46:37) Organizational structure for multi-product success (50:57) Organizational culture for multi-product success (52:07) Customer obsession and product development (57:36) More lessons from going multi-product  (01:05:57) Transparent Collective: supporting underrepresented founders (01:09:54) Lightning round — Referenced: • Immad Akhund on X: https://x.com/immad • Mercury: https://mercury.com • Square: https://squareup.com • Product management career ladders: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/product-management-career-ladders • Pioneers, Settlers, Town Planners [Wardley]: https://orghacking.com/pioneers-settlers-town-planners-wardley-9dcd3709cde7 • Jason Zhang on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-zhang-5645a860 • What is ‘Dogfooding’?: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/14/business/dogfooding.html • Mercury Bill Pay: https://mercury.com/bill-pay • Zip: https://zip.co • Jira: https://www.atlassian.com/software/jira • The art and science of pricing | Madhavan Ramanujam (Monetizing Innovation, Simon-Kucher): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-art-and-science-of-pricing-madhavan • Gokul Rajaram on designing your product development process, when and how to hire your first PM, a playbook for hiring leaders, getting ahead in you career, how to get started angel investing, more: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/gokul-rajaram-on-designing-your-product • Gokul Rajaram on X: https://x.com/gokulr • Transparent Collective: https://www.transparentcollective.com • 16 Reading Tips from Naval Ravikant: https://alexandbooks.com/archive/16-reading-tips-from-naval-ravikant • Shrinking on AppleTV+: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/shrinking • Bad Sisters on AppleTV+: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/bad-sisters ...References continued at: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-build-your-product-team-from-scratch-rohini-pandhi — Recommended books: • Vectors: Aphorisms & Ten-Second Essays: https://www.amazon.com/Vectors-Aphorisms-Ten-Second-James-Richardson/dp/0967266890 • The Inner Game of Tennis: The Classic Guide to the Mental Side of Peak Performance: https://www.amazon.com/Inner-Game-Tennis-Classic-Performance/dp/0679778314 • Pachinko: https://www.amazon.com/Pachinko-National-Book-Award-Finalist/dp/1455563927 • Cutting for Stone: https://www.amazon.com/Cutting-Stone-Abraham-Verghese/dp/0375714367 • The Song of Achilles: https://www.amazon.com/Song-Achilles-Novel-Madeline-Miller/dp/0062060627 — Production and marketing by https://penname.co/. For inquiries about sponsoring the podcast, email [email protected]. — Lenny may be an investor in the companies discussed.