How To Measure Your Marketing Efforts (And Why Click Attribution Is Dead)

Listen to this episode from B2B Marketing with Dave Gerhardt on Spotify. #239: Measurement | In this Exit Five live session, Dave sits down with Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder & CEO of Paramark (ex-PayPal, Dropbox, Adobe, BILL), to talk about the future of B2B marketing measurement.Spoiler alert: it’s not clicks.They break down why the old way of doing attribution doesn’t cut it anymore and why leading B2B teams are shifting toward incrementality, experimentation, and marketing mix modeling.Dave and Pranav also cover:The gaps in the old way of doing attributionWhat the best B2B marketing teams are doing now for attributionThe key questions CMOs face from boards and execs about measurementThree things you can do this quarter to improve your measurementTimestamps(00:00) - – Intro to Pranav (04:11) - – The Purple Cow mindset: why differentiation matters more than ever (05:51) - – Pranav’s background (PayPal, Dropbox, Adobe, BILL → Paramark) (06:56) - – “Measurement is Robin. Creative is Batman.” (08:11) - – Why click/touch attribution is flawed and misleading (11:41) - – The 95/5 rule: most of your audience isn’t in-market…yet (14:26) - – How top brands (Asana, DoorDash, P&G) measure beyond attribution (15:51) - – What is incrementality and why it’s more useful than attribution (18:11) - – Why revenue isn’t always the right KPI - especially in long sales cycles (20:11) - – Intro to marketing mix modeling (MMM) and how it works (22:11) - – Visualizing baseline vs. incremental impact on pipeline (23:26) - – Geo testing: how to prove a channel’s impact without attribution tools (25:26) - – The branded search trap: why you should test turning it off (29:04) - – Even Meta, Google, LinkedIn admit attribution is flawed (29:49) - – How to measure untrackable stuff (organic, content, social) (33:19) - – Why “credit” kills performance (35:09) - – Measurement for startups (38:04) - – What to do if all you track is closed-won revenue (39:49) - – Why attribution software is overkill under $100K in spend (41:04) - – Should you ask “How did you hear about us?” (43:49) - – How to carve out budget for channel testing (46:29) - – Don’t skip audience research (49:49) - – Creativity is still your #1 growth lever (measurement just supports it) (51:19) - – Wrap-up and final takeaways Send guest pitches and ideas to [email protected] the Exit Five Newsletter here: https://www.exitfive.com/newsletterCheck out the Exit Five job board: https://jobs.exitfive.com/Become an Exit Five member: https://community.exitfive.com/checkout/exit-five-membership***This episode is brought to you by Webflow.If you're a B2B marketer right now, you’re probably being asked to do more with less - less budget, fewer resources, tighter timelines. And you’re expected to somehow grow pipeline anyway.That’s why more teams are switching to Webflow.Webflow is the website experience platform that helps you consolidate your stack, reduce program spend, and move faster. Instead of juggling a dozen tools and waiting on devs, Webflow gives marketing and design teams the power to build, launch, and optimize sites all in one place.No-code flexibility. Dev-level control. Built-in A/B testing, SEO, localization, and AI tools. It’s everything you need to turn your website into your highest-performing channel.It’s everything you need to turn your website into your most efficient, highest-performing channel.Check it out at webflow.com/exitfive.