
bugs.debian.org/311724
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3- title#311724 - cdbs: Automatic update of debian/control, first paragraph, broken - Debian Bug report logs
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Links
8- http://robots.org.uk
- https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugspam.cgi?bug=311724
- https://bugs.debian.org/debbugs-source
- https://buildd.debian.org/cdbs
- https://ftp-master.debian.org/REJECT-FAQ.html